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I liked your post. Fossil fuel industry is an infra-structure. It cannot be removed overnight. What we should do is to enhance our technology and improve consumptions per one unit of work.

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Scientists pay attention to a very specific score card that most clearly indicates how the battle against man-caused global warming is going.  That score card is the measured level of CO2 in the background atmosphere.  That number is presently 393 parts per million (40% higher than the preindustrial era) and is rising at an alarming rate of 2 ppm per year (the greatest rate of increase observed over the last 800,000 years).  Thus, that score card clearly indicates that the battle is being lost and being lost badly.  Its a rout!!

Another measure of our “progress” is the level of international and national governmental actions being taken to address this problem.  For an excellent assessment of that score card see:  http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/159945795.html.   In short, that report indicates that essentially nothing is being done at the international level.  There apparently is not an “iota of optimism” that the once-promising Earth Summit on…

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Simple Facts:
You can argue till eternity, but here you do not earn anything.
You think the thread is about “Why We Need Debate, Not Consensus, on Gravity“?
You believe Global Warming is real, even though the current value is negligible.Here nobody believes in Global Warming, unlike, everybody thinks about Global Cooling.
Just return to the topic; Debate or Consensus on Global Warming.
Fred Krupp said something in two items; in return, Joe Bast submitted a proposal in five items.
It is useless to focus on scientific persuasive controversies.
Say how we can start the Debate. Everybody should keep the documents ready when the Debate takes place.

Watts Up With That?

NOTE: This op-ed was rejected by the New York Times. It was submitted as a response by The president of The Heartland Institute in reply to Fred Krupp’s Wall Street Journal essay. I reproduce it here in hopes of it reaching a wide audience. Feel free to reproduce it elsewhere. – Anthony

by Joe Bast

Dear Fred,

I read your August 7 opinion piece in TheWall Street Journal,“A New Climate-Change Consensus,” with great interest. As you know, The Heartland Institute is a leading voice in the international debate over climate change. The Economist recently called us “the world’s most prominent think-tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change.”

First, I welcome you to the effort to bring skeptics and alarmists together. We need your help. We have been trying to do this for many years.

For example, we ran more than $1 million in ads calling on Al…

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